Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 or Massey Ferguson MF 8140 A?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Agrotron 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8140 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 37% (19.5 L/min / 5.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Massey Ferguson 8140A suits road haulage better on this data: 15% (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Agrotron 165 | MF 8140 A | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 117.8 kW (158.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | 117.8 kW (158.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Agrotron 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8140 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Agrotron 165 and the MF 8140 A. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Agrotron 165 and the MF 8140 A. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 72.8 L/min (19.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | 53.3 L/min (14.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | AheadThe Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 has 37% more hydraulic flow (19.5 L/min / 5.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 8140A (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 5,640 kg (12,434 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the Agrotron 165. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,425 kg (14,165 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | 6,115 kg (13,481 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 10,000 kg (22,046 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | 11,500 kg (25,353 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 8140A has 15% higher maximum permissible mass (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 24Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | 32 to 48Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 8140A has 33% more forward gears (8 gears) than the Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Agrotron 165 and the MF 8140 A. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph) to 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | 540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 MK3” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8140” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2000–2003 | 1995–1999 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 has 37% more hydraulic flow (19.5 L/min / 5.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 8140A (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 8140A has 15% higher maximum permissible mass (1,500 kg / 3,307 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 8140A has 33% more forward gears (8 gears) than the Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 165 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Agrotron 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8140 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources