Deutz (KHD) D 9005 or Fiat 80-R?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the D 9005 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 80-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fiat 80-R suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 18% (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Deutz D 9005 suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: four-wheel drive.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | D 9005 | 80-R | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 62.2 kW (83.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | 61.8 kW (82.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the D 9005 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 80-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the D 9005 and the 80-R. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the D 9005 and the 80-R. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 34.0 L/min (9.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | 40.0 L/min (10.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | AheadThe Fiat 80-R has 18% more hydraulic flow (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the Deutz D 9005 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 2,800 kg (6,173 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the D 9005. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,675 kg (8,102 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | 3,550 kg (7,826 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 6,500 kg (14,330 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 80-R. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | 5Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | AheadThe Deutz D 9005 has 140% more forward gears (7 gears) than the Fiat 80-R (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the D 9005 and the 80-R. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 27 km/h (16.8 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | AheadThe Deutz D 9005 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 80-R does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 80-R. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz D 9005” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | AheadThe Deutz D 9005 is available with four-wheel drive; the Fiat 80-R is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1967 | 1961–1967 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Deutz D 9005 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat 80-R has 18% more hydraulic flow (6.0 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the Deutz D 9005 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz D 9005 has 140% more forward gears (7 gears) than the Fiat 80-R (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz D 9005 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 80-R does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Deutz D 9005 is available with four-wheel drive; the Fiat 80-R is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Deutz D 9005 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the D 9005 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 80-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
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