DEUTZ-ALLIS 9170 or Renault Ares 826 RZ?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 9170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 826 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault Ares 826 RZ suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 234% (8,100 kg / 17,857 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Renault Ares 826 RZ suits road haulage better on this data: 33% (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 9170 | Ares 826 RZ | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 128 kW (172 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | 128.8 kW (172.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 826 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 9170 and the Ares 826 RZ. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 9170 and the Ares 826 RZ. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 86.9 L/min (23.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Ares 826 RZ. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,460 kg (7,628 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | 11,560 kg (25,485 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ” | AheadThe Renault Ares 826 RZ has 234% more lift (8,100 kg / 17,857 lb) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 9170 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 7,094 kg (15,640 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | 7,730 kg (17,042 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 11,780 kg (25,970 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 9170. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | 18 to 32Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ” | Sources disagreeNo call on forward gears: sources disagree on the figure for the Ares 826 RZ. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 9170 and the Ares 826 RZ. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ” | AheadThe Renault Ares 826 RZ has 33% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 9170 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | 540/1000 rpmOECD test report 2129, 2004 | AheadThe Renault Ares 826 RZ offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the DEUTZ-ALLIS 9170 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 9170” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 826 RZ”; OECD test report 2129, 2004 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1989–1990 | 2001–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 826 RZ is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ares 826 RZ has 234% more lift (8,100 kg / 17,857 lb) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 9170 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 826 RZ has 33% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 9170 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 826 RZ offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the DEUTZ-ALLIS 9170 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Renault Ares 826 RZ is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 826 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No call on forward gears: sources disagree on the figure for the Ares 826 RZ.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources