DEUTZ-ALLIS 8070 or New Holland-Fiat G 170?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8070 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the G 170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 51% (42.3 L/min / 11.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8070 | G 170 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 126.5 kW (169.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 125.1 kW (167.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8070 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the G 170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8070 and the G 170. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8070 and the G 170. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 83.3 L/min (22.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 125.6 L/min (33.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | AheadThe New Holland-Fiat G 170 has 51% more hydraulic flow (42.3 L/min / 11.2 gpm) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 8070 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,720 kg (8,201 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 7,197 kg (15,867 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 8070: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070”); the G 170: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 7,643 kg (16,850 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 7,622 kg (16,804 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 11,500 kg (25,353 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8070. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 16 to 18Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8070 and the G 170. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | AheadThe New Holland-Fiat G 170 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the DEUTZ-ALLIS 8070 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1985–1988 | 1993–2003 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The New Holland-Fiat G 170 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 has 51% more hydraulic flow (42.3 L/min / 11.2 gpm) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 8070 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the DEUTZ-ALLIS 8070 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8070 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the G 170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 8070: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 8070”); the G 170: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources