DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 or Renault 891 (S)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 7085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 891 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: four-wheel drive.
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 7085 | 891 (S) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 65.4 kW (87.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 65.5 kW (87.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 891 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 7085 and the 891 (S). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 7085 and the 891 (S). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 74.2 L/min (19.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 32.6 L/min (8.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 128% more hydraulic flow (41.6 L/min / 11.0 gpm) than the Renault 891 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,452 kg (5,406 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 3,440 kg (7,584 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | AheadThe Renault 891 (S) has 40% more lift (988 kg / 2,178 lb) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,840 kg (8,466 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 3,950 kg (8,708 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 7085 and the 891 (S). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 15 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 7085. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Renault 891 (S) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 891 (S). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 891 R7681” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 891 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1986–1990 | 1977–1982 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 128% more hydraulic flow (41.6 L/min / 11.0 gpm) than the Renault 891 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 891 (S) has 40% more lift (988 kg / 2,178 lb) than the DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Renault 891 (S) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 891 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 891 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
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