DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 or John Deere 5510 (A)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 7085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 5510 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 19% (11.7 L/min / 3.1 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 50% (812 kg / 1,790 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 7085 | 5510 (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 65.4 kW (87.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 65.5 kW (87.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 5510 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 7085 and the 5510 (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 7085 and the 5510 (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 74.2 L/min (19.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 62.5 L/min (16.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 19% more hydraulic flow (11.7 L/min / 3.1 gpm) than the John Deere 5510 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,452 kg (5,406 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 1,640 kg (3,616 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 50% more lift (812 kg / 1,790 lb) than the John Deere 5510 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,840 kg (8,466 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 3,048 kg (6,720 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 is 26% heavier (792 kg / 1,746 lb) than the John Deere 5510 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 7085 and the 5510 (A). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 15 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 9 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 7085 and the 5510 (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | AheadThe DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the John Deere 5510 (A) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Allis 7085” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 5510 (USA)” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1986–1990 | 1997–2000 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The John Deere 5510 (A) is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 19% more hydraulic flow (11.7 L/min / 3.1 gpm) than the John Deere 5510 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 has 50% more lift (812 kg / 1,790 lb) than the John Deere 5510 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 is 26% heavier (792 kg / 1,746 lb) than the John Deere 5510 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The DEUTZ-ALLIS 7085 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the John Deere 5510 (A) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The John Deere 5510 (A) is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 5510 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
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