David Brown 880 Selectamatic or SOMECA 470 (TD)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 880 Selectamatic has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 470 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The David Brown 880 Selectamatic suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 30% (6.3 L/min / 1.7 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 880 Selectamatic | 470 (TD) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 34.3 kW (46.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | 33.8 kW (45.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 880 Selectamatic has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 470 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 880 Selectamatic and the 470 (TD). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 880 Selectamatic and the 470 (TD). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 27.5 L/min (7.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | 21.2 L/min (5.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | AheadThe David Brown 880 Selectamatic has 30% more hydraulic flow (6.3 L/min / 1.7 gpm) than the SOMECA 470 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,315 kg (2,899 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | 700 kg (1,543 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 880 Selectamatic: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic”); the 470 (TD): lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 1,810 kg (3,990 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | 1,415 kg (3,120 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The David Brown 880 Selectamatic is 28% heavier (395 kg / 871 lb) than the SOMECA 470 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 880 Selectamatic and the 470 (TD). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 6 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | 6 to 9Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 880 Selectamatic and the 470 (TD). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 880 Selectamatic. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V” | AheadThe SOMECA 470 (TD) is available with four-wheel drive; the David Brown 880 Selectamatic is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1965–1971 | 1980 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SOMECA 470 (TD) is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The David Brown 880 Selectamatic has 30% more hydraulic flow (6.3 L/min / 1.7 gpm) than the SOMECA 470 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The David Brown 880 Selectamatic is 28% heavier (395 kg / 871 lb) than the SOMECA 470 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SOMECA 470 (TD) is available with four-wheel drive; the David Brown 880 Selectamatic is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The SOMECA 470 (TD) is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 880 Selectamatic has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 470 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 880 Selectamatic: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 880 Selectamatic”); the 470 (TD): lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 470 V”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources