David Brown 3800 Selectmatic or MAN Werk München 4P1?

Which should you choose?

On performance, no comparable figure differs by more than its threshold: on this data the machines are level. On features, the MAN Werk München 4P1 is ahead on drive.

  • The MAN Werk München 4P1 suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: 26% (400 kg / 882 lb) heavier and four-wheel drive.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for David Brown 3800 Selectmatic and MAN Werk München 4P1, with the call on each
Question3800 Selectmatic4P1Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?26.2 kW (35.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”25.7 kW (35 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 3800 Selectmatic and the 4P1.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 3800 Selectmatic and the 4P1.
Which pumps more oil for implements?32.0 L/min (8.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”—No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 4P1.
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?725 kg (1,598 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”1,200 kg (2,646 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 3800 Selectmatic: lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”); the 4P1: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
Which is heavier, for traction?1,520 kg (3,351 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”1,920 kg (4,233 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The MAN Werk München 4P1 is 26% heavier (400 kg / 882 lb) than the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?—2,800 kg (6,173 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 3800 Selectmatic.
Which has the wider choice of gears?6 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”8Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?—YesTraktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 3800 Selectmatic.
Which is faster on the road?25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”19.9 km/h (12.4 mph) to 28.3 km/h (17.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”1520Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 4P1.
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”—No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 4P1.
Which drives on both axles?2WDTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”4WDTraktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”AheadThe MAN Werk München 4P1 is available with four-wheel drive; the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
Which is newer, and what about parts?1968–19711960–1963Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The MAN Werk München 4P1 is 26% heavier (400 kg / 882 lb) than the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The MAN Werk München 4P1 is available with four-wheel drive; the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
  • The David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Not comparable on three-point lift: the 3800 Selectmatic: lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”); the 4P1: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources