David Brown 3800 Selectmatic or MAN Werk München 4P1?
Which should you choose?
On performance, no comparable figure differs by more than its threshold: on this data the machines are level. On features, the MAN Werk München 4P1 is ahead on drive.
- The MAN Werk München 4P1 suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: 26% (400 kg / 882 lb) heavier and four-wheel drive.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 3800 Selectmatic | 4P1 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 26.2 kW (35.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | 25.7 kW (35 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 3800 Selectmatic and the 4P1. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 3800 Selectmatic and the 4P1. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 32.0 L/min (8.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 4P1. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 725 kg (1,598 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | 1,200 kg (2,646 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 3800 Selectmatic: lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”); the 4P1: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 1,520 kg (3,351 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | 1,920 kg (4,233 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The MAN Werk München 4P1 is 26% heavier (400 kg / 882 lb) than the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 2,800 kg (6,173 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 3800 Selectmatic. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 6 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | 8Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 3800 Selectmatic. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | 19.9 km/h (12.4 mph) to 28.3 km/h (17.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | 1520Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 4P1. |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 4P1. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1” | AheadThe MAN Werk München 4P1 is available with four-wheel drive; the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1968–1971 | 1960–1963 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The MAN Werk München 4P1 is 26% heavier (400 kg / 882 lb) than the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The MAN Werk München 4P1 is available with four-wheel drive; the David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The David Brown 3800 Selectmatic is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 3800 Selectmatic: lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 3800”); the 4P1: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “MAN 4P1”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources