10 material differences · fewer than 12

Tractor oneDavid Brown 12121971–1976No measured PTO figureTractor twoMassey Ferguson MF 1651964–1971No measured PTO figure

Which should you choose?

We will not advise between these two machines, because their unladen weight differs by more than 25% (25%); the drive differs (2WD; 2WD / 4WD). The figures below are side by side so you can judge them yourself; each says whether it was measured, claimed or declared by its source.

Field by field

10 material differences · 4 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material

David Brown 1212 and Massey Ferguson MF 165, field by field
Field1212MF 165Gap
Engine
Engine power, claimed claimed71 hp57.3 hp+24% 1212
Engine declaredDAVID BROWN AD 4/55 APerkins AD 4.203differs
Displacement declared3.60 L3.34 L+8% 1212
Maximum torque declared182 lb·ft · 247 N·m168 lb·ft · 228 N·m+8% 1212
Transmission
Top speed declared15.5–18.6 mph · 25–30 km/h12.4 mph · 20 km/hdiffers
Clutch declaredDry double clutchPedal operated dry and air cooled MF double clutchdiffers
Hydraulics & hitch
Pump flow declared8.7 gpm · 33.0 L/min4.3 gpm · 16.4 L/min+101% 1212
Pressure declared—1,493–1,593 psi · 103–110 bar—
Rear PTO speeds declared540 rpm540 rpm—
Weight & dimensions
Unladen weight declared5,997 lb · 2,720 kg4,784 lb · 2,170 kg+25% 1212
Wheelbase declared88.5 in · 2,249 mm81.9 in · 2,080 mm+8% 1212
Length declared133.3 in · 3,386 mm134.3 in · 3,410 mm—
Width declared69.5 in · 1,765 mm72.8 in · 1,850 mm—
Ground clearance declared21.3 in · 540 mm14.6 in · 370 mm+46% 1212
Turning radius, braked declared11.7 ft · 3.58 m11.3 ft · 3.45 m—
Fuel tank declared86.3 qt · 81.7 L69.7 qt · 66.0 L+24% 1212

Height is not in this table. It is not one measurement: the sources measure it to different points — over the cab on some machines, over the steering wheel or the exhaust on others — and the same tractor measured two ways can differ by most of a metre. It appears here only when both machines' figures carry the point they were measured to and it is the same point, which is not the case for these two. Each machine's own page prints its height as its source gives it.

David Brown 1212 sources

Source
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1212”
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1200”

Massey Ferguson MF 165 sources

Source
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 165”
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Eicher 3354 Mammut 74 A”
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 165 S”