David Brown 1212 vs Massey Ferguson MF 165
11 material differences · fewer than 12
Which should you choose?
We will not advise between these two machines, because their unladen weight differs by more than 25% (25%); the drive differs (2WD; 2WD / 4WD). The figures below are side by side so you can judge them yourself; each says whether it was measured, claimed or declared by its source.
Field by field
11 material differences · 4 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material
| Field | 1212 | MF 165 | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Engine | |||
| Engine power, claimed claimed | 71 hp | 57.3 hp | +24% 1212 |
| Engine declared | DAVID BROWN AD 4/55 A | Perkins AD 4.203 | differs |
| Displacement declared | 3.60 L | 3.34 L | +8% 1212 |
| Maximum torque declared | 182 lb·ft · 247 N·m | 166 lb·ft · 226 N·m | +9% 1212 |
| Transmission | |||
| Top speed declared | 15.5–18.6 mph · 25–30 km/h | 12.4 mph · 20 km/h | differs |
| Clutch declared | Dry double clutch | Pedal operated dry and air cooled MF double clutch | differs |
| Hydraulics & hitch | |||
| Pump flow declared | 8.7 gpm · 33.0 L/min | 4.3 gpm · 16.4 L/min | +101% 1212 |
| Pressure declared | — | 3,001 psi · 207 bar | — |
| Three-point lift at ends declared | — | 2,870 lb · 1,302 kg | — |
| Rear PTO speeds declared | 540 rpm | 540 rpm | — |
| Weight & dimensions | |||
| Unladen weight declared | 5,997 lb · 2,720 kg | 4,784 lb · 2,170 kg | +25% 1212 |
| Wheelbase declared | 88.5 in · 2,249 mm | 81.9 in · 2,080 mm | +8% 1212 |
| Length declared | 133.3 in · 3,386 mm | 134.3 in · 3,410 mm | — |
| Width declared | 69.5 in · 1,765 mm | 72.8 in · 1,850 mm | — |
| Height declared | 90.0 in · 2,286 mm | 64.6 in · 1,640 mm | +39% 1212 |
| Ground clearance declared | 21.3 in · 540 mm | 14.6 in · 370 mm | +46% 1212 |
| Turning radius, braked declared | 11.7 ft · 3.58 m | 11.3 ft · 3.45 m | — |
| Fuel tank declared | 86.3 qt · 81.7 L | 69.7 qt · 66.0 L | +24% 1212 |
David Brown 1212 sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1212”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1200”
Massey Ferguson MF 165 sources
Source
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 165”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Eicher 3354 Mammut 74 A”