10 material differences · fewer than 12
Tractor oneDavid Brown 12121971–1976No measured PTO figureTractor twoMassey Ferguson MF 1651964–1971No measured PTO figure
Which should you choose?
We will not advise between these two machines, because their unladen weight differs by more than 25% (25%); the drive differs (2WD; 2WD / 4WD). The figures below are side by side so you can judge them yourself; each says whether it was measured, claimed or declared by its source.
Field by field
10 material differences · 4 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material
| Field | 1212 | MF 165 | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Engine | |||
| Engine power, claimed claimed | 71 hp | 57.3 hp | +24% 1212 |
| Engine declared | DAVID BROWN AD 4/55 A | Perkins AD 4.203 | differs |
| Displacement declared | 3.60 L | 3.34 L | +8% 1212 |
| Maximum torque declared | 182 lb·ft · 247 N·m | 168 lb·ft · 228 N·m | +8% 1212 |
| Transmission | |||
| Top speed declared | 15.5–18.6 mph · 25–30 km/h | 12.4 mph · 20 km/h | differs |
| Clutch declared | Dry double clutch | Pedal operated dry and air cooled MF double clutch | differs |
| Hydraulics & hitch | |||
| Pump flow declared | 8.7 gpm · 33.0 L/min | 4.3 gpm · 16.4 L/min | +101% 1212 |
| Pressure declared | — | 1,493–1,593 psi · 103–110 bar | — |
| Rear PTO speeds declared | 540 rpm | 540 rpm | — |
| Weight & dimensions | |||
| Unladen weight declared | 5,997 lb · 2,720 kg | 4,784 lb · 2,170 kg | +25% 1212 |
| Wheelbase declared | 88.5 in · 2,249 mm | 81.9 in · 2,080 mm | +8% 1212 |
| Length declared | 133.3 in · 3,386 mm | 134.3 in · 3,410 mm | — |
| Width declared | 69.5 in · 1,765 mm | 72.8 in · 1,850 mm | — |
| Ground clearance declared | 21.3 in · 540 mm | 14.6 in · 370 mm | +46% 1212 |
| Turning radius, braked declared | 11.7 ft · 3.58 m | 11.3 ft · 3.45 m | — |
| Fuel tank declared | 86.3 qt · 81.7 L | 69.7 qt · 66.0 L | +24% 1212 |
Height is not in this table. It is not one measurement: the sources measure it to different points — over the cab on some machines, over the steering wheel or the exhaust on others — and the same tractor measured two ways can differ by most of a metre. It appears here only when both machines' figures carry the point they were measured to and it is the same point, which is not the case for these two. Each machine's own page prints its height as its source gives it.
David Brown 1212 sources
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1212”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “David Brown 1200”
Massey Ferguson MF 165 sources
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 165”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Eicher 3354 Mammut 74 A”
- Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 165 S”