11 material differences · fewer than 12

Tractor oneCase-IH Puma 1652007–2011No measured PTO figureTractor twoFendt 817 Vario-TMS2003–2009No measured PTO figure

Which should you choose?

Read our verdict on the Puma 165 and the 817 Vario-TMS → It is generated from the rows below by a fixed, versioned rule set, and names the figure behind every call.

Field by field

11 material differences · 4 fields identical or within 5%, which is not counted as material

Case-IH Puma 165 and Fendt 817 Vario-TMS, field by field
FieldPuma 165817 Vario-TMSGap
Engine
Engine power, claimed claimed164.7 hp162 hp—
Engine declared—Deutz BF6M 2013 C—
Displacement declared—5.70 L—
Maximum torque declared540 lb·ft · 731.8 N·m575 lb·ft · 780 N·m+7% 817 Vario-TMS
Transmission
Top speed declared24.9–31.1 mph · 40–50 km/h31.1 mph · 50 km/hdiffers
Clutch declaredelectrohydraulically operated wet Case-New Holland multi-plate driving clutchMulti-disc clutchdiffers
Hydraulics & hitch
Hydraulic centre declaredClosed centre——
Hydraulic control declaredLoad sensingLoad sensing—
Pump flow declared39.1 gpm · 148.1 L/min29.1 gpm · 110.0 L/min+35% Puma 165
Pressure declared2,756 psi · 190 bar2,901 psi · 200 bar+5% 817 Vario-TMS
Rear PTO speeds declared540E/1000 rpm540 rpm / 750 rpm / 1000 rpmdiffers
Weight & dimensions
Unladen weight declared17,891 lb · 8,115 kg14,661 lb · 6,650 kg+22% Puma 165
Maximum permissible mass declared26,455 lb · 12,000 kg27,558 lb · 12,500 kg—
Wheelbase declared113.5 in · 2,884 mm107.1 in · 2,720 mm+6% Puma 165
Length declared193.5 in · 4,916 mm185.0 in · 4,700 mm—
Width declared85.2–114.2 in · 2,165–2,900 mm100.4 in · 2,550 mmdiffers
Ground clearance declared18.7 in · 475 mm22.4 in · 570 mm+20% 817 Vario-TMS
Turning radius, braked declared—16.7 ft · 5.10 m—
Fuel tank declared433.2 qt · 410.0 L359.3 qt · 340 L+21% Puma 165

Height is not in this table. It is not one measurement: the sources measure it to different points — over the cab on some machines, over the steering wheel or the exhaust on others — and the same tractor measured two ways can differ by most of a metre. It appears here only when both machines' figures carry the point they were measured to and it is the same point, which is not the case for these two. Each machine's own page prints its height as its source gives it.

Case-IH Puma 165 sources

Source
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”
  • Source: OECD test report 2410, 2008

Fendt 817 Vario-TMS sources

Source
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario”
  • Source: Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 714 Vario”