Case-IH MX 150 or Case-IH Puma 165?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the MX 150: power at the PTO, measured by a laboratory at maximum power (OECD Test 1762); the Puma 165: power at the PTO, claimed (Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.

  • The Case-IH Puma 165 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 23% (1,965 kg / 4,332 lb) more three-point lift.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for Case-IH MX 150 and Case-IH Puma 165, with the call on each
QuestionMX 150Puma 165Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?106.4 kW (142.7 hp)OECD Test 1762Measured PTO power is 4% below the claimed engine power (gross or net not stated) (110.3 kW (147.9 hp)) — a different quantity: the gap is what the engine claim does not reach the shaft.105.5 kW (141.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MX 150: power at the PTO, measured by a laboratory at maximum power (OECD Test 1762); the Puma 165: power at the PTO, claimed (Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MX 150 and the Puma 165.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?103.2 kW (138.4 hp)OECD Test 1762No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Puma 165.
Which pumps more oil for implements?148.1 L/min (39.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the MX 150.
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?8,495 kg (18,728 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”10,460 kg (23,060 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”AheadThe Case-IH Puma 165 has 23% more lift (1,965 kg / 4,332 lb) than the Case-IH MX 150 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
Which is heavier, for traction?7,370 kg (16,248 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”8,115 kg (17,891 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Case-IH Puma 165 is 10% heavier (745 kg / 1,642 lb) than the Case-IH MX 150 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?12,500 kg (27,558 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”12,000 kg (26,455 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”EvenEven on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which has the wider choice of gears?16 to 32Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”18 to 28Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”Sources disagreeNo call on forward gears: sources disagree on the figure for the Puma 165.
Which offers a creeper range?No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MX 150 and the Puma 165.
Which is faster on the road?30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”40 km/h (24.9 mph) to 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”Sources disagreeNo call on PTO speeds: sources disagree on the PTO speeds of the Puma 165.
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”independentTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
Which drives on both axles?4WDOECD test report 1762, 1998; OECD test report 1763, 1998; Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH MX150”4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”; OECD test report 2410, 2008; OECD test report 2971, 2016EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1998–20022007–2011Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Case-IH Puma 165 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The Case-IH Puma 165 has 23% more lift (1,965 kg / 4,332 lb) than the Case-IH MX 150 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
  • The Case-IH Puma 165 is 10% heavier (745 kg / 1,642 lb) than the Case-IH MX 150 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The Case-IH Puma 165 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MX 150: power at the PTO, measured by a laboratory at maximum power (OECD Test 1762); the Puma 165: power at the PTO, claimed (Traktorenlexikon, “Case-IH Puma 165”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
  • No call on forward gears: sources disagree on the figure for the Puma 165.
  • No call on PTO speeds: sources disagree on the PTO speeds of the Puma 165.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow and a creeper range.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources