ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy or SAME Centauro?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the One-Seventy has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Centauro has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 51% (8.3 L/min / 2.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy and SAME Centauro, with the call on each
QuestionOne-SeventyCentauroCall
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?40.5 kW (54.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170”40.5 kW (54.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 55 (DT)”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the One-Seventy has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Centauro has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the One-Seventy and the Centauro.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the One-Seventy and the Centauro.
Which pumps more oil for implements?24.6 L/min (6.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170”16.3 L/min (4.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 55 (DT)”AheadThe ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy has 51% more hydraulic flow (8.3 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the SAME Centauro (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the One-Seventy and the Centauro.
Which is heavier, for traction?2,595 kg (5,721 lb) to 2,699 kg (5,950 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170”2,100 kg (4,630 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 55 (DT)”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy is 24% heavier (495 kg / 1,091 lb) than the SAME Centauro (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the One-Seventy and the Centauro.
Which has the wider choice of gears?8Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170”8Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 55 (DT)”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
Which offers a creeper range?No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the One-Seventy and the Centauro.
Which is faster on the road?25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170”25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 55 (DT)”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170”540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 55 (DT)”EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the One-Seventy and the Centauro.
Which drives on both axles?2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 55 (DT)”AheadThe SAME Centauro is available with four-wheel drive; the ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
Which is newer, and what about parts?1967–19731965–1969EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy has 51% more hydraulic flow (8.3 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the SAME Centauro (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy is 24% heavier (495 kg / 1,091 lb) than the SAME Centauro (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Centauro is available with four-wheel drive; the ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
  • Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the One-Seventy has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Centauro has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources