ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy or Renault 80?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the One-Seventy has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 80 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | One-Seventy | 80 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 40.5 kW (54.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170” | 40.5 kW (54.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the One-Seventy has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 80 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the One-Seventy and the 80. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the One-Seventy and the 80. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 24.6 L/min (6.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170” | 23.2 L/min (6.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 1,850 kg (4,079 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the One-Seventy. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,595 kg (5,721 lb) to 2,699 kg (5,950 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170” | 1,645 kg (3,627 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy is 58% heavier (950 kg / 2,094 lb) than the Renault 80 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the One-Seventy and the 80. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170” | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the One-Seventy and the 80. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the One-Seventy. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 170” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 80 R7282” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1967–1973 | 1968–1977 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The ALLIS-CHALMERS One-Seventy is 58% heavier (950 kg / 2,094 lb) than the Renault 80 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the One-Seventy has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 80 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources