ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT or Renault 851-4 (S)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 190 XT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 851-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault 851-4 (S) suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: four-wheel drive.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 190 XT | 851-4 (S) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 63.3 kW (84.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 62.6 kW (83.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 190 XT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 851-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 190 XT and the 851-4 (S). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 190 XT and the 851-4 (S). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 45.4 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 33.7 L/min (8.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | AheadThe ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT has 35% more hydraulic flow (11.7 L/min / 3.1 gpm) than the Renault 851-4 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,200 kg (4,850 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 3,720 kg (8,201 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | AheadThe Renault 851-4 (S) has 69% more lift (1,520 kg / 3,351 lb) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,477 kg (7,665 lb) to 3,558 kg (7,844 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 3,435 kg (7,573 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 190 XT and the 851-4 (S). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | AheadThe Renault 851-4 (S) has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 190 XT. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 190 XT and the 851-4 (S). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 190XT” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851-4 R7664” | AheadThe Renault 851-4 (S) is available with four-wheel drive; the ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1965–1971 | 1974–1989 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 851-4 (S) is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT has 35% more hydraulic flow (11.7 L/min / 3.1 gpm) than the Renault 851-4 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 851-4 (S) has 69% more lift (1,520 kg / 3,351 lb) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 851-4 (S) has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 851-4 (S) is available with four-wheel drive; the ALLIS-CHALMERS 190 XT is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Renault 851-4 (S) is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 190 XT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 851-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources