ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 or Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 185 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 28% (316 kg / 697 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 185 | R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 55.9 kW (75.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 185 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 185 and the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 185 and the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 75.7 L/min (20.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,134 kg (2,500 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 1,450 kg (3,197 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | AheadThe Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has 28% more lift (316 kg / 697 lb) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,946 kg (8,699 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 2,720 kg (5,997 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 is 45% heavier (1,226 kg / 2,703 lb) than the Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 185 and the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | AheadThe Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 185 and the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | AheadThe Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 185. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Allis-Chalmers 185” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8000 Super-Special” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1970–1981 | 1967–1974 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has 28% more lift (316 kg / 697 lb) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 is 45% heavier (1,226 kg / 2,703 lb) than the Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Landini R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the ALLIS-CHALMERS 185 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 185 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the R 8000 Super-Special (TL-9 N/B) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources