Agco LT-85 or VALMET 865-2/865?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the LT-85 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 865-2/865 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The VALMET 865-2/865 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 39% (16.1 L/min / 4.3 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 121% (1,845 kg / 4,068 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | LT-85 | 865-2/865 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 64 kW (86 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | 64 kW (86 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the LT-85 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 865-2/865 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the LT-85 and the 865-2/865. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the LT-85 and the 865-2/865. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 40.9 L/min (10.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | 57.0 L/min (15.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | AheadThe VALMET 865-2/865 has 39% more hydraulic flow (16.1 L/min / 4.3 gpm) than the Agco LT-85 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,520 kg (3,351 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | 3,365 kg (7,419 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | AheadThe VALMET 865-2/865 has 121% more lift (1,845 kg / 4,068 lb) than the Agco LT-85 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,908 kg (8,616 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | 3,190 kg (7,033 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Agco LT-85 is 23% heavier (718 kg / 1,583 lb) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the LT-85 and the 865-2/865. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the LT-85 and the 865-2/865. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | 540E/540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | AheadThe Agco LT-85 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 865-2/865 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO LT 85” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Valmet 865” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2002–2004 | 1996–1997 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Agco LT-85 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The VALMET 865-2/865 has 39% more hydraulic flow (16.1 L/min / 4.3 gpm) than the Agco LT-85 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The VALMET 865-2/865 has 121% more lift (1,845 kg / 4,068 lb) than the Agco LT-85 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Agco LT-85 is 23% heavier (718 kg / 1,583 lb) than the VALMET 865-2/865 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Agco LT-85 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the VALMET 865-2/865 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Agco LT-85 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the LT-85 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 865-2/865 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources