AGCO-ALLIS 9785 or Massey Ferguson MF 8170 A?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 9785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8170 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The Massey Ferguson 8170A suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 11% (960 kg / 2,116 lb) more three-point lift.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for AGCO-ALLIS 9785 and Massey Ferguson MF 8170 A, with the call on each
Question9785MF 8170 ACall
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?169.9 kW (227.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785”169.3 kW (227.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8170 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 9785 and the MF 8170 A.
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 9785 and the MF 8170 A.
Which pumps more oil for implements?—118.2 L/min (31.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 9785.
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?8,940 kg (19,709 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785”9,900 kg (21,826 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”AheadThe Massey Ferguson 8170A has 11% more lift (960 kg / 2,116 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
Which is heavier, for traction?8,528 kg (18,801 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785”9,740 kg (21,473 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 8170A is 14% heavier (1,212 kg / 2,672 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?—15,500 kg (34,172 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 9785.
Which has the wider choice of gears?18 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785”18Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?——No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 9785 and the MF 8170 A.
Which is faster on the road?30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785”40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers more PTO speeds?1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785”540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”AheadThe Massey Ferguson 8170A offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 does not (as stated by the sources).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?—independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 9785.
Which drives on both axles?4WDTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785”4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1998–20011998–1999EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The Massey Ferguson 8170A has 11% more lift (960 kg / 2,116 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
  • The Massey Ferguson 8170A is 14% heavier (1,212 kg / 2,672 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The Massey Ferguson 8170A offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 does not (as stated by the sources).
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8170 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources