AGCO-ALLIS 9785 or Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 9785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Agrotron 235 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 17% (1,560 kg / 3,439 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 9785 | Agrotron 235 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 169.9 kW (227.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785” | 170 kW (228 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Agrotron 235 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 9785 and the Agrotron 235. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 9785 and the Agrotron 235. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 120.0 L/min (31.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 9785. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 8,940 kg (19,709 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785” | 10,500 kg (23,149 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | AheadThe Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235 has 17% more lift (1,560 kg / 3,439 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 8,528 kg (18,801 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785” | 9,050 kg (19,952 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 14,000 kg (30,865 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 9785. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785” | 24Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 9785 and the Agrotron 235. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph) to 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785” | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 9785. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 9785” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1998–2001 | 2003–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235 has 17% more lift (1,560 kg / 3,439 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 9785 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron 235 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 9785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Agrotron 235 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources