AGCO-ALLIS 8785 or Fendt Farmer 411 Vario?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Farmer 411 Vario has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fendt Farmer 411 Vario suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8785 | Farmer 411 Vario | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 82.4 kW (110.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 81 kW (109 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 411 Vario” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Farmer 411 Vario has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8785 and the Farmer 411 Vario. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8785 and the Farmer 411 Vario. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 109.0 L/min (28.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Farmer 411 Vario. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,270 kg (9,414 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the Farmer 411 Vario. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,917 kg (10,840 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 5,000 kg (11,023 lb) to 5,240 kg (11,552 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 411 Vario” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 9,000 kg (19,842 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 411 Vario” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8785. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 32 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 411 Vario” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the AGCO-ALLIS 8785 has 32 forward gears and the Fendt Farmer 411 Vario is stepless (CVT) — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8785 and the Farmer 411 Vario. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 411 Vario” | AheadThe Fendt Farmer 411 Vario has 25% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8785 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 540/1000 rpmOECD test report 1962, 2001 | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Farmer 411 Vario. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8785” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 411 Vario”; OECD test report 1962, 2001 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1998–1999 | 1999–2006 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fendt Farmer 411 Vario has 25% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the AGCO-ALLIS 8785 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the AGCO-ALLIS 8785 has 32 forward gears and the Fendt Farmer 411 Vario is stepless (CVT) — not called.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8785 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Farmer 411 Vario has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources