AGCO-ALLIS 8610 or SAME Laser 110 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8610 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 110 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8610 | Laser 110 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 80.9 kW (108.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | 80.2 kW (107.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8610 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 110 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8610 and the Laser 110 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8610 and the Laser 110 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 61.7 L/min (16.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | 64.0 L/min (16.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,736 kg (10,441 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | EvenEven on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,930 kg (10,869 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | 4,340 kg (9,568 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 8610 is 14% heavier (590 kg / 1,301 lb) than the SAME Laser 110 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Laser 110 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 24 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8610. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/540E/1000E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 8610” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 110” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1991–1997 | 1983–1996 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 8610 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8610 is 14% heavier (590 kg / 1,301 lb) than the SAME Laser 110 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 8610 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8610 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 110 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources