AGCO-ALLIS 5650 or SOMECA 460 (TD)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 460 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 23% (6.2 L/min / 1.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 5650 | 460 (TD) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 35.3 kW (47.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 35.3 kW (47.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 460 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 460 (TD). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 460 (TD). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 33.0 L/min (8.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 26.8 L/min (7.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 23% more hydraulic flow (6.2 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the SOMECA 460 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,888 kg (4,162 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 1,750 kg (3,858 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 5650: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”); the 460 (TD): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,055 kg (4,530 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 1,810 kg (3,990 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is 14% heavier (245 kg / 540 lb) than the SOMECA 460 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 5650 and the 460 (TD). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 5650 and the 460 (TD). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 460 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 5650 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SOMECA 460 (TD) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 460 (TD). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 460” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1994–1999 | 1980 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 23% more hydraulic flow (6.2 L/min / 1.6 gpm) than the SOMECA 460 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is 14% heavier (245 kg / 540 lb) than the SOMECA 460 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 460 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SOMECA 460 (TD) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The AGCO-ALLIS 5650 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 5650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 460 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 5650: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 5650”); the 460 (TD): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 460”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources