AGCO-ALLIS 4660 or Hürlimann H-358 "Prestige"?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 4660 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the H-358 "Prestige" has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The AGCO-ALLIS 4660 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 12% (3.5 L/min / 0.9 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 4660 | H-358 "Prestige" | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 44.1 kW (59.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 44.1 kW (59.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 4660 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the H-358 "Prestige" has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 4660 and the H-358 "Prestige". |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 4660 and the H-358 "Prestige". |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 32.0 L/min (8.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 28.5 L/min (7.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | AheadThe AGCO-ALLIS 4660 has 12% more hydraulic flow (3.5 L/min / 0.9 gpm) than the Hürlimann H-358 "Prestige" (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,100 kg (4,630 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 1,700 kg (3,748 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 4660: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660”); the H-358 "Prestige": lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,160 kg (4,762 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 2,775 kg (6,118 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Hürlimann H-358 "Prestige" is 28% heavier (615 kg / 1,356 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 4660 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 4660 and the H-358 "Prestige". |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 15 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 4660 and the H-358 "Prestige". |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | AheadThe Hürlimann H-358 "Prestige" offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 4660 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 4660. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1991–1997 | 1989–1998 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The AGCO-ALLIS 4660 has 12% more hydraulic flow (3.5 L/min / 0.9 gpm) than the Hürlimann H-358 "Prestige" (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Hürlimann H-358 "Prestige" is 28% heavier (615 kg / 1,356 lb) than the AGCO-ALLIS 4660 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Hürlimann H-358 "Prestige" offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the AGCO-ALLIS 4660 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 4660 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the H-358 "Prestige" has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 4660: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “AGCO-Allis 4660”); the H-358 "Prestige": lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann H 358”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources