Fiat 1300 Super (DT) (Fiat) or Steyr 8165 a?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 1300 Super (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8165 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Steyr 8165 a suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 10% (4.7 L/min / 1.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Steyr 8165 a suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 1300 Super (DT) | 8165 a | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 110.3 kW (147.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 110.4 kW (148.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 1300 Super (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8165 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 1300 Super (DT) and the 8165 a. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 1300 Super (DT) and the 8165 a. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 45.5 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 50.2 L/min (13.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | AheadThe Steyr 8165 a has 10% more hydraulic flow (4.7 L/min / 1.2 gpm) than the Fiat 1300 Super (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,469 kg (9,852 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 6,020 kg (13,272 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 1300 Super (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT”); the 8165 a: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 5,060 kg (11,155 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 5,575 kg (12,291 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Steyr 8165 a is 10% heavier (515 kg / 1,135 lb) than the Fiat 1300 Super (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 8,500 kg (18,739 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1300 Super (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 12 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 1300 Super (DT) and the 8165 a. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | AheadThe Steyr 8165 a has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Fiat 1300 Super (DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | AheadThe Fiat 1300 Super (DT) offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the Steyr 8165 a does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1978–1981 | 1986–1993 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Steyr 8165 a is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Steyr 8165 a has 10% more hydraulic flow (4.7 L/min / 1.2 gpm) than the Fiat 1300 Super (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Steyr 8165 a is 10% heavier (515 kg / 1,135 lb) than the Fiat 1300 Super (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Steyr 8165 a has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Fiat 1300 Super (DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 1300 Super (DT) offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the Steyr 8165 a does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Steyr 8165 a is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 1300 Super (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 8165 a has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 1300 Super (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1300-S/1300-S DT”); the 8165 a: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Steyr 8165”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
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