Doppstadt Trac 160 or New Holland TM165?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Trac 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the TM165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “similar machines”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Trac 160 | TM165 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 118 kW (158 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160” | 117.7 kW (157.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Trac 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the TM165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Trac 160 and the TM165. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Trac 160 and the TM165. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Trac 160 and the TM165. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 8,000 kg (17,637 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160” | 7,730 kg (17,042 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the Trac 160: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160”); the TM165: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 7,180 kg (15,829 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160” | 6,333 kg (13,962 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Doppstadt Trac 160 is 13% heavier (847 kg / 1,867 lb) than the New Holland TM165 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 10,500 kg (23,149 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Trac 160. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 40Traktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160” | 18 to 28Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | AheadThe Doppstadt Trac 160 has 43% more forward gears (12 gears) than the New Holland TM165 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Trac 160 and the TM165. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160” | 540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Trac 160. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165”; OECD test report 1909, 2000 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1999–2001 | 1999–2002 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Doppstadt Trac 160 is 13% heavier (847 kg / 1,867 lb) than the New Holland TM165 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Doppstadt Trac 160 has 43% more forward gears (12 gears) than the New Holland TM165 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Trac 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the TM165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the Trac 160: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Doppstadt Trac 160”); the TM165: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland TM165”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
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