Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 or Massey Ferguson MF 3650?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Agrotron TTV 1160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 3650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 67% (3,700 kg / 8,157 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Agrotron TTV 1160 | MF 3650 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 110.4 kW (148.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | 110.4 kW (148.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Agrotron TTV 1160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 3650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Agrotron TTV 1160 and the MF 3650. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Agrotron TTV 1160 and the MF 3650. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 58.3 L/min (15.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Agrotron TTV 1160. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 9,240 kg (20,371 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | 5,540 kg (12,214 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | AheadThe Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 has 67% more lift (3,700 kg / 8,157 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 3650 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,525 kg (14,385 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | 5,345 kg (11,784 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 is 22% heavier (1,180 kg / 2,601 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 3650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 10,500 kg (23,149 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the MF 3650. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | 16 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 is stepless (CVT) and the Massey Ferguson MF 3650 has 16 forward gears — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Agrotron TTV 1160 and the MF 3650. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph) to 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3650” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2001–2007 | 1987–1990 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 has 67% more lift (3,700 kg / 8,157 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 3650 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 is 22% heavier (1,180 kg / 2,601 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 3650 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the Deutz-Fahr Agrotron TTV 1160 is stepless (CVT) and the Massey Ferguson MF 3650 has 16 forward gears — not called.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Agrotron TTV 1160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 3650 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources