Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 or SAME Dorado 85 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Agroplus 87 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 20% (600 kg / 1,323 lb) more three-point lift.
- The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 11% (500 kg / 1,102 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Agroplus 87 | Dorado 85 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 61.1 kW (81.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | 61.0 kW (81.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Agroplus 87 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Agroplus 87 and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Agroplus 87 and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 54.0 L/min (14.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,000 kg (6,614 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | 3,600 kg (7,937 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 20% more lift (600 kg / 1,323 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,700 kg (5,952 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | 2,660 kg (5,864 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 4,500 kg (9,921 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 11% higher maximum permissible mass (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 20Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | 30 to 45Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 50% more forward gears (10 gears) than the Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Agroplus 87 and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | 540/540E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2006–2009 | 2000–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 20% more lift (600 kg / 1,323 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 11% higher maximum permissible mass (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Dorado 85 (DT) has 50% more forward gears (10 gears) than the Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Deutz-Fahr Agroplus 87 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Agroplus 87 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources